Home Health 485: Dr. Kanwal Bawa on Overcoming Most cancers, Sexual Well being and...

485: Dr. Kanwal Bawa on Overcoming Most cancers, Sexual Well being and Biohacking

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Good day, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie, from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the top. And this podcast is all about a tremendous story of overcoming most cancers and in addition about sexual well being and biohacking. I’m right here with Dr. Cabell Bawa, who’s a Board Licensed doctor and founding father of Bawa Medical and Chief Medical Officer on the New Wave. She is dedicated to her philosophy of rejuvenation from the within out. And on this episode, she shares her story of overcoming breast most cancers and in addition changing into a magnificence queen. And the rationale that she really did that and the way she used that platform to point out her scars and to point out her hair loss and all of the issues that got here alongside along with her most cancers prognosis and to deliver consciousness. She additionally talks quite a bit about some taboo subjects. we discuss sexual well being fairly a bit and a few actually shocking statistics on well being and hormones associated to each women and men, and the way these change over time and with age, and in addition methods to assist enhance them. So, undoubtedly, a fact-packed episode, her story is actually unbelievable. And with out additional ado, let’s be part of her.

Katie: Dr. Bawa, welcome, and thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks for having me.

Katie: I’m so excited to listen to extra about your story and your experience as a result of it looks as if you’ve gotten each private {and professional} expertise in a few areas which can be extraordinarily relevant to lots of people proper now. However to begin broad, I’ve learn that you’ve a very, actually fascinating and wonderful story about overcoming most cancers, which as we all know, statistically is on the rise proper now and, sadly, many individuals will obtain a prognosis of in some unspecified time in the future of their lives. After which not solely overcoming that, however turning that into one thing actually stunning and empowering and wonderful. So can we begin by studying slightly extra about you and your story?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Thanks a lot for that. I used to be misdiagnosed with my breast most cancers for nearly three years. I initially found my lump after I was nonetheless in my late 30s and my gynecologist tried to blow me off and inform me that I actually didn’t meet conventional threat components, that I used to be nonetheless not 40, insurance coverage wouldn’t cowl it. And I used to be slightly perplexed as a result of I believed it was concerning the affected person, not the, you understand, the numbers. So it took lots of convincing. I did get a mammogram, however then they misinterpret it. They acquired an ultrasound, however they misinterpret that too. And this occurred for a number of years in a row. So lastly, I insisted that there was one thing very fallacious. They thought I used to be neurotic, and it was okay. I didn’t actually care at that time. I knew one thing was fallacious and I needed to be an advocate for myself.

So at that time, I ended up going to a unique hospital. I ended up going to the College of Miami Sylvester Most cancers Institute, and I can truthfully say that the docs there saved my life. So if we get nothing else from our time collectively, I would like ladies and even males to know that after they really feel that there’s one thing fallacious with them, that they need to insist and to not take it mendacity down, to not let anyone inform them that they’re being loopy, that they’re being hypochondriacs. When you understand you now. And nonetheless, you understand, this occurred to me and whereas this was not one thing that I anticipated, I had a alternative. I might let most cancers defeat me or I might make it about one thing greater than myself. So, I, of all issues, determined to affix a magnificence pageant. Now chances are you’ll marvel why at age 43, I felt the necessity to be part of a magnificence pageant. It’s as a result of I discovered as a most cancers affected person that my fellow most cancers sufferers had given up on themselves. They felt that most cancers was going to defeat them. And I truthfully consider that if you happen to suppose it’s going to defeat you, it completely will. You might be proper somehow.

So for me, I used to be by no means going to undergo most cancers. It needed to be about making one thing good come out of one thing horrible. And so, I made a decision to affix Miss Florida to encourage most cancers sufferers to reside their finest life regardless of most cancers. To indicate them that pleasure mustn’t finish, and that they’re no much less stunning, even when they’ve scars, even when they lose their hair. So, I went on stage 4 weeks or so after my mastectomy. I had my scar seen, I refused to cowl it with make-up. It could have been simple to take action, however it was a matter of precept. I additionally went on stage with no extensions and no wig. I purchased a wig, I simply couldn’t deliver myself to put on it as a result of I needed to talk my fact. And after I received Miss Florida, it was a giant win, not only for me, however for most cancers sufferers and people present process adversity of any variety. So, in so some ways, you understand, my story has been discovered to be inspirational for that, and I’m very joyful as a result of that’s what that is about.

Katie: That’s wonderful. And two issues actually stood out to me in that. The primary being the significance of advocating for ourselves relating to medical care. And I had the same expertise in a a lot much less ominous prognosis, however I, for years, knew one thing was fallacious and would go to docs and ask for assessments. And I suspected it was my thyroid. And equally was advised, “Properly, you’re not in a high-risk group. All of this stuff are regular postpartum. Your ranges are high quality.” And so they had been solely testing, after all, sure ranges. And I needed to advocate for myself for a few years with a number of docs to lastly get a prognosis that then helped me get well. And also you hear about this quite a bit within the medical world. And sadly, it looks as if it usually occurs extra to ladies than males actually because I feel many research are achieved on males as a result of they’re simpler to check.

However I feel…I’m so glad you introduced that up as a result of I feel the perfect outcomes, and also you may agree from a physician’s perspective, occur when you’ve gotten a affected person who’s invested and well-informed and advocating for themselves, and in addition desirous to work with a practitioner as a accomplice in bettering their very own well being. And the opposite factor you stated that I feel is so necessary on this and in truthfully, each space of life is that mindset piece. And the concept if you happen to suppose one thing will defeat you, it’s going to. And likewise when you have a optimistic mindset, that goes such a great distance towards the restoration. How necessary do you suppose that mindset piece was for you and for different folks in the identical state of affairs?

Dr. Bawa: I like what you stated as a result of so many docs should not testing you absolutely, even when they do check you. And I’m so joyful that you simply had been an advocate for your self and also you discovered what was fallacious. And so far as mindset is anxious, mindset in my case was all the pieces. And this will appear dramatic, however it is a true incident. I had some problems throughout my most cancers remedy and I used to be in my chemotherapy suite. My blood ranges had been tanking for lack of a greater phrase to say it. And one among my nurses began to cry. She simply felt horrible for me that I used to be taking two steps ahead and 5 steps again it appeared each time we circled. And after I noticed tears in her eyes, I consoled her and I stated to her, “It’s okay. It actually is. I will probably be high quality. And never solely am I going to be high quality, in just some months, I’m going to be Miss Florida.” And she or he laughed as she cried. And that is an honest-to-goodness story. This actually occurred.

And I needed to clarify to her that I used to be not going there for a participation medal, I used to be in it to win it as a result of it was not price doing if it was not price doing absolutely and effectively. So, I hope that my story has despatched a bigger message to folks typically about mindset, about perseverance. And I feel that if I didn’t have that mindset, if I didn’t have that perseverance, I don’t know that I might have made it so far as I did and had the result I did as a result of a lot of most cancers is miserable. I’m not saying that there wasn’t any melancholy on my finish, there was. I selected to not dwell on it. So I feel that’s the primary factor.

Katie: And I additionally love that you simply reframed that and didn’t conceal from the struggles or attempt to cowl the scars of that and let that truly be an outward, like, witness to your struggles in order that it might open a dialog about that. I feel usually in society, there are such…very outlined requirements of what female magnificence appears like and that stress to really feel good and to not have scars and to not have something that’s not thought-about, you understand, bodily good. And possibly by doing that, you gave ladies freedom to be who they really are in so some ways, and to not have to keep up this phantasm of perfection. And from what I’ve learn, additionally that was a big a part of your motive for competing as effectively is that you simply had been in a position to shine a highlight on different most cancers sufferers and on that as effectively, proper? You used your platform to deliver lots of consciousness there as effectively.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. I spoke on stage about how I used to be misdiagnosed. I needed to boost consciousness for most cancers misdiagnosis, in addition to inform most cancers sufferers that life doesn’t finish with a most cancers prognosis, that there’s a lot stuff to stay up for. Now, occurring stage and the gown I selected and with the hair and make-up I selected was an announcement. I didn’t select a gown that coated my chest. I might have. There are numerous robes I might have worn which can be completely stunning that didn’t present my scars, that didn’t present my uneven breast measurement. However I went on stage as is. I used to be utterly uneven. Issues had not been finalized but with my second surgical procedure. I nonetheless haven’t had it, however I didn’t let that govern my alternative of gown. This was about, once more, one thing greater than myself. So, I went there with my uneven cleavage, my scar seen, and brief hair with some areas that had been extra thinning than others. And this was necessary to me as a result of I don’t need folks to suppose that most cancers shouldn’t be stunning. Most cancers is simply as stunning as anything. And I feel that that was an important message to ship to the world. And I feel it’s a message that resonated. My win redefined magnificence after most cancers.

Katie: And I can solely think about how to start with overwhelming a most cancers prognosis should really feel. And I hear from folks, sadly, like I stated, most cancers appears to be on the rise throughout the board, who obtain a prognosis and, you understand, overwhelmed and marvel the place to even begin searching for assets. So I’m curious if there have been issues that had been useful to you in establishing that mindset piece if you had been going by that and/or that helped you understand issues to do to bodily help your self by that course of and to ensure your physique was nourished and in a position to get well?

Dr. Bawa: , it’s fascinating how life labored out for me. I used to be not likely…as a part of my medical observe, I based and owned Bawa Medical in Boca Raton. It’s a wellness and rejuvenation-based observe. After I began this, after I conceived this observe, I used to be not pondering of most cancers. I used to be not pondering of what a most cancers affected person wants for help but mockingly, my life took that path. So, in my case, I used to be very fortunate. I didn’t need to go exterior to look for lots of the issues I wanted. I might do IV remedy in my very own workplace as a result of I discovered it useful. Additionally, chemotherapy is so nauseating, you may’t eat effectively, your dietary stage goes down at some extent if you want the next dietary stage to struggle that illness, to struggle that chemo as a result of chemo is doing fairly a quantity on you, it’s a poison, basically. You want it. I extremely advocate it. It saved my life, however it’s a poison. Let’s not neglect that. So, how do you counteract that? I had IV remedy.

The opposite factor that occurs with most cancers is hair loss. I’m a hair restoration specialist. So I used to be very fortunate in that sense that I used to be in a position to do hair restoration inside my observe as a result of I really feel that most cancers hair loss is misunderstood. A lot of it’s about hair restoration the place in so many circumstances, it ought to be about hair loss prevention. No one thinks of it that manner, even my very own associates stated I used to be being ridiculous that I ought to settle for it gracefully. They advised me I used to be being, you understand, very superficial. And I stated, “It’s not about being superficial. It’s about combating it when you may struggle it.” When I’ve instruments, why not use them? So I did a bunch of various issues in my observe and I by no means went bald regardless of very robust chemotherapy. The chemotherapy I underwent was a mix of Taxol and Adriamycin and Cytoxan. To anyone who does most cancers therapies or has gone by most cancers therapies, they understand how robust that chemotherapy routine is but I by no means got here near being bald. I misplaced the size, by no means the precise hair, you understand, on my head. So did that.

I additionally did pores and skin therapies at my very own observe as a result of chemotherapy causes lots of pores and skin harm and hyperpigmentation. So regardless of how a lot sunscreen I used, I nonetheless had lots of pores and skin harm. So, lots of that I discovered I used to be uniquely positioned to assist myself. So this isn’t a plug for my observe in any manner. You requested how I acquired by it, a lot of it’s due to what I do for a dwelling anyway. Now, how different folks would get by it, I extremely advocate that they attain out to their oncologist, ask for the assets close to them. Perhaps there’s a observe like me close to them. Perhaps there’s anyone who may help them save their hair. Perhaps there’s somebody who may help them with wellness and IVs and, you understand, serving to them with chemo-related pores and skin modifications and issues like that. As a result of, you understand, it’s very miserable if you look within the mirror and also you don’t seem like your self anymore. It’s not about being superficial, you virtually don’t acknowledge who you might be. And there’s one thing to be stated for making an attempt to keep up what you may of your self by all of it.

I imply, there was some extent I had no eyebrows and no eyelashes. So I made a decision it was about mindset. I didn’t wish to settle for that. So, I really went out and developed a product to develop lashes and brows that’s wholesome, that doesn’t change your eye shade and do harm to the pores and skin round your eyes. As a result of a lot of what’s on the market can even do harm. Individuals don’t discuss it. Like Latisse, does it work? Completely. However it will possibly trigger some modifications within the shade of your eye, as an example. No one talks about that a part of it. So I made a decision that most cancers was going to be one thing that simply was optimistic in each manner for me. So I even went and developed a pure product that I now have in my observe for that. So, a lot of that, you understand, I used to be so fortunate, however I do advocate that they attain out to social employees, they attain out to help teams, and in my case, to associates. My household doesn’t reside right here. My household’s abroad. So my associates had been my tribe. They had been those who helped me by all of it. My pal, Carmen, picked me up from chemo each single time. She simply took it upon herself. , it takes a village. I used to be very fortunate to have a really supportive village.

Katie: That’s stunning. And I feel that additionally illustrates what appears to be a false dichotomy that typically occurs relating to most cancers remedy or any sort of medical remedy. It looks as if usually there’s a stress between the traditional mannequin and the issues it’s essential to do medically and the wellness facet. And it looks as if the perfect outcomes really occur when somebody is ready to entry all of these issues, that it isn’t an both/or, however very a lot a each/and. And that you are able to do issues which can be supportive of your physique and in addition supportive of hopefully, the method of remedy and serving to your physique get well extra shortly. However that’s a very unbelievable story that hopefully offers hope to anybody else who may, sadly, be in the identical state of affairs. And also you talked about your observe, I’d like to delve into a few completely different areas right here as a result of I do know you’re employed with folks in quite a lot of alternative ways.

However one other space I hear quite a bit from ladies about proper now and I’m wondering if COVID may be a contributing issue right here, however is sexual wellness. And it looks as if there is a rise in sexual-related issues or simply libido and sexual satisfaction, particularly in ladies. I don’t know if that is present or if you happen to’ve perhaps seen this for a very long time. So I’m curious if you happen to’re comfy sharing, if you happen to had any of these struggles if you went by your chemo journey, but in addition the ways in which you assist tackle that in your sufferers.

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Now, vaginal well being is one thing I’m very keen about. I do lots of intimate wellness for each women and men at my observe, and chemo and most cancers therapies, most cancers drugs, even after chemo could cause lots of modifications in a girl’s hormonal stability. It threw me into menopause. So, you understand, there’s quite a bit that goes fallacious with most cancers and with growing old, typically. In my case, it was simply amplified due to the most cancers. However vaginal well being is one thing that could be very ignored. Ladies take higher care of their vehicles than they do their vaginas, sadly. And I’m right here once more as an advocate for good vaginal well being. And like I stated about hair loss relating to most cancers, why are we reacting? Why are we not stopping? I’m all about prevention as a substitute of remedy. So, I encourage ladies to return get vaginal rejuvenation at a youthful age. So lots of my sufferers say, “Properly, I’m not that dangerous but.” And I’m telling you, it makes my head spin as a result of I wish to clarify to ladies all over the world that they should maintain themselves sooner.

When you tackle the issue earlier, youthful, you’ve gotten higher outcomes long-term. Your vagina will age in another way. It’s not simply your face that’s growing old, it’s your vagina as effectively. So I’m very huge in my observe on FemiWave. It’s acoustic wave remedy, actually utilizing sound waves to deliver higher blood move into your vaginal space, typically, not simply your clitoris, your labia, your pelvic ground, all of it wants good blood move. So this breaks down blockages and blood vessels like plaques. , it’s not simply your coronary heart and the arteries in your coronary heart which have blockages as you become older, blood vessels in every single place develop blockages. So that is to advertise good, wholesome blood move. And that makes your pelvic ground stronger, which is one other factor that goes with age and childbirth and all the pieces else. I’m not saying that we’re curing incontinence, we’re definitely making a giant stride in direction of minimizing it with this.

So I like to recommend it to ladies of all ages. It additionally makes ladies extraordinarily orgasmic, which is only a fantastic plus level with it. So, we do O-Photographs at our observe, however we additionally do FemiWave due to the fantastic, fantastic results now we have with it. And there’s little question, and that’s the great thing about it. We do vaginal laser rejuvenation as effectively at my observe with CO2. Now I’m not by any means saying something destructive about CO2, there’s a time and place for it. However I discover that FemiWave is one thing that helps ladies throughout the board. I truthfully have an issue making an attempt to even let you know as a girl it is not going to work. And you understand what? Typically the query is, “Who will it assist?” I feel the query with FemiWave is completely different, “Who will it not assist?” And I truthfully can’t consider anybody it wouldn’t assist in some form or kind. In order that’s one thing that I’m very joyful to be doing. And we at the moment are a middle of excellence with each FemiWave for girls and GAINSWave for males. And I really feel that we’re doing a lot good to society, typically, by serving to folks this fashion.

Katie: So that you talked about that like that growing old course of occurs there as effectively, particularly simply as part of regular growing old. And I do know ladies report extra pelvic ground points, particularly after childbirth, which makes full sense as a result of there’s some intense trauma that may occur throughout childbirth for lots of ladies. And I assume that this additionally impacts the sexual expertise fairly a bit and sexual well being that manner. Are there different components, like as an example, you talked about that that sort of pulled you into menopause? I do know menopause usually impacts sexual well being for girls. Are this stuff that you simply do in your workplace in a position to assist sort of tackle the, like, sexual satisfaction facet of that even after menopause for girls?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. What I do could be very complete. I really feel the completely different elements of what I do are very synergistic with one another. As an illustration, I don’t simply do hormone substitute, I prefer to name it hormone balancing as a result of there’s an imbalance in lots of features of our life as we age, as we struggle completely different illnesses. In my case, it was most cancers, however in your case it’s thyroid illness. It’s no much less traumatic to your system. So I attempt to optimize well being. I attempt to optimize wellness, typically. So I prefer to take my sufferers and see them as the larger image, not only one a part of what I’m doing. So I might optimize your hormones. I might optimize your vitamin and your metabolic state of affairs with IV remedy. I might do, you understand, GAINSWave if you happen to’re a person, I do FemiWave if you happen to’re a girl. These are issues that assist everybody. I can’t think about supplying you with a subset that it will not assist. In some form or kind, it’s going to assist everybody. After which I fine-tune it additional. Does anyone want, you understand, as an example, a vaginal laser? We will all the time do this. Do the boys want some sort of remedy? We will do this. So I feel that this needs to be seen as a much bigger image and never bits and items.

Katie: I agree. It looks as if the perfect outcomes in any realm occur if you tackle the physique as an entire and work and help its pure processes versus countering them. In that realm, are there issues that you simply discovered useful personally or that you simply advocate to your sufferers that they will do at house which can be supportive, whether or not or not it’s sure dietary practices? I do know prefer it looks as if sleep and hydration are throughout the board all the time good suggestions. I’m but to have anybody in 500 company on this podcast say sleep shouldn’t be necessary and hydration doesn’t matter, however are there belongings you encourage your sufferers to do to assist enhance the results of those therapies and in addition that had been useful to you if you had been going by your journey?

Dr. Bawa: In fact, mindset was the primary factor for me. I felt that something I might do to calm my thoughts was useful. I feel meditation is underrated. I don’t suppose that it’s a must to sit for an hour and, you understand, stare on the house to meditate. I feel meditation could be various things to completely different folks. The concept is to calm your thoughts. If that’s by taking a stroll, if that’s by listening to a bit of music you discover soothing. It doesn’t matter what it’s, I feel it’s essential to calm your thoughts and discover stability inside your self above all. After which I feel that hydration is a superb factor. As you talked about, hydration is a primary factor. If you’re not hydrated, then nothing works effectively. Your pores and skin, your well being, typically, nothing works effectively with out hydration. Nutritionally, I’m not telling you it’s a must to eat natural, it’s not all the time possible, however no matter you’re consuming, I do advocate making an attempt your finest to have a extra inclusive food regimen, extra fruit and veggies, not taking any group out of your food regimen.

As an illustration, chemo can result in lots of weight acquire. It’s a fallacy when folks suppose that each one most cancers sufferers drop some weight. Some acquire. I did. So I feel the concept is to not say that, “Oh, let me do keto. I’ll drop some weight,” or let me do that or that, I’ll drop some weight. I feel a balanced, nutritious diet with smart parts is necessary. It’s a boring factor to say, I do know. There’s nothing dramatic about what I’m saying, however that’s necessary. Steadiness is necessary in each side. After which, after all, I feel when yow will discover a physician close to you who may help you with the issues that helped me. I used to be fortunate, I occurred to be doing this anyway. All I needed to do was come to work and, you understand, all of this was obtainable to me, however hunt down practitioners who consider in a holistic lifestyle, who’ve of their observe one thing that may make it easier to. Now, sexually, as an example, we’ve talked about FemiWave. If you’re someplace the place you don’t have a FemiWave supplier, we also have a machine. In the event that they contact us, we will all the time ship it to them. It’s an at-home intimate wellness machine that makes use of the identical idea of sound wave expertise and makes use of sound waves to interrupt up blockages and produce good blood move into the vaginal space. It’s not as robust as what we do within the workplace, however it’s an exquisite adjunct for some other remedy or anything you’re doing in your life. When you can’t get to us personally, at the very least use this at house. It is vitally useful.

Katie: And I’m curious if you happen to can communicate to perhaps in simply generalities or perhaps particular circumstances with out utilizing figuring out particulars, however what sort of causes folks usually want these sorts of therapies? Like, I feel most individuals perhaps don’t notice that you simply see these sort of blockages in all tissue, not simply in your coronary heart, like folks perceive in that stage. However it will look like growing blood move can be a fairly dramatic shift. What sort of outcomes do folks usually see?

Dr. Bawa: Oh my goodness, I’ve a YouTube channel, Bawa Medical, and one of many movies I posted nearly every week in the past is a couple of gentleman who is sort of 69. His girlfriend is 4 months older than him they usually’re having the perfect intercourse of their lives. They’ve each had therapies from us. The gents had GAINSWave and he says that, you understand, they’re having intercourse at the very least as soon as a day, if not twice a day. And typically they’ve nooners. That to me is inspirational for anyone half his age, not to mention anyone who’s virtually 70 years outdated. So are we seeing outcomes? We’re completely seeing outcomes. We’re altering lives. What we do is transformational. At my observe, I’m giving them a brand new lease on life. It doesn’t matter what age you might be. You probably have an issue, there’s no level in denying it, settle for it, discover assist, and reside your finest life. Are you aware that 20% of males of their 20s endure from erectile dysfunction? No one thinks that the 20s might deliver dysfunction, however it’s completely true. It’s a identified truth inside the scientific neighborhood that 20% of males of their 20s have it, 30% of their 30s, 40% of their 40s. It simply goes up about 10% per decade of life.

Now, such as you stated, we don’t all the time have these research in ladies. There’s a glass ceiling for girls and never simply within the workforce, sadly. We are sometimes blown off, we’re known as histrionic, hysterical, you understand, hysteria, the idea of hysteria, you understand, if you look again at how the time period started, it’s very denigrating to ladies. So I’m not right here to say that…you understand, I’m not right here for a ladies’s lib dialogue, I’m simply right here to say that women, we don’t all the time have the research for us, we don’t all the time have the statistics for us, however now now we have choices and we must always go make the most of them. Do that for yourselves. Get some assist. There’s assist on the market.

Katie: And I do know that it’s been a comparatively dramatic shift, these decline in hormone ranges and the rise in ED, even in younger males. And I do know we see low testosterone, even in younger males. I’ve even seen some statistics that males usually can have a 3rd of the testosterone their grandfathers did on the similar age. And to me, that speaks to the truth that we all know that we’ve had huge environmental modifications which can be resulting in a few of these issues. Our meals provide has modified. So now it turns into necessary to be extra proactive. When now we have extra destructive inputs that now we have to take care of, now we have to grow to be extra proactive in counteracting these issues. And to circle again to what you stated too about food regimen as effectively, and consuming a balanced, nutritious diet and never coming from a spot of deprivation, I feel that’s one thing that uniquely impacts ladies extra as effectively due to food regimen tradition and due to a few of these issues we talked about early on.

And it looks as if many ladies battle with the mindset of having the ability to nourish their our bodies sufficient and having the ability to eat sufficient different meals to essentially really help our physique. So I like that you simply introduced that up as a result of that’s one thing I’ve stated on right here earlier than is now we have to shift that mindset once more, with mindset being so necessary away from like meals is dangerous. There’s guilt connected to meals. I must food regimen and be thinner, to I like and settle for my physique, how can I nourish it to the easiest way potential? How do I help it? How do I help its pure processes of cleansing, of anti-aging? Our our bodies are so unbelievable in what they will do, they simply want slightly bit extra help in at present’s world as a result of they’re dealing with greater than they’ve up to now.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now, I hope I can contact on…you stated so many fantastic issues. I want I used to be writing as a result of… And I’m going to return as soon as we document this and truly discuss this by myself social media platforms as a result of what you stated is profound. Now you introduced up dropping testosterone ranges. Are you aware that sleep deprivation in males is inflicting decrease fertility, decrease testosterone ranges? Once more, that’s one thing folks don’t discuss. It’s not an attractive matter, however it’s true. Sleep deprivation is inflicting that. Now you stated earlier about…you stated one thing easy, you stated, I do know that sleep and hydration are quite simple. Sure, they’re easy, however they’re so profound. When you don’t get sufficient sleep, you’ve gotten decrease fertility. So when you’ve gotten decrease fertility, that impacts so many alternative features of your life, and that’s only one instance of what sleep deprivation does.

So then you definately talked about, you understand, different modifications which can be occurring, different issues which can be occurring with tradition, the place we’re made to really feel lower than. Now, I used to be a measurement 0-2 after I was identified with most cancers, I’m most likely a measurement 6 proper now. And I’m not being arduous on myself. I’m not depriving myself. Don’t get me fallacious, I’m not consuming your entire bread basket. But when I desire a slice of bread, I’m consuming it. I’m not ingesting a ton of alcohol, but when I’d like a glass of wine, I’m permitting myself a glass of wine often. I feel we should be kinder to ourselves as ladies and as males. I feel society could be very powerful on us. I feel there’s this entire idea of superficial magnificence. And that’s why I went to Miss Florida as a result of I used to be combating that idea of conventional magnificence. I went at my heaviest. I went after I was nonetheless swollen from my mastectomy. I used to be nonetheless, you understand, coping with fluid retention. I feel the idea of magnificence must be modified. Magnificence must be present in no matter stage you’re in. And it’s not about others making you are feeling stunning, that feeling wants to return from inside.

I perceive that society must be kinder to folks going by struggles. I get that. And that’s a given. However that power wants to return from inside us. Whenever you look in that mirror, it’s essential to see somebody stunning, somebody robust, somebody who has persevered. We’ve all gone by struggles in life. We’re all winners in our personal manner. I’ll have gone to medical faculty. I’ll put on a protracted white coat. My successes are completely different than your successes. We’re the one ones who know what a hero we’re and we have to really feel that. That’s what I wish to do, encourage folks to feeling and being their finest. It wants to return from inside actually.

Katie: Yeah, I agree. That was an necessary mindset shift for me as a result of such as you, I struggled with the bodily modifications of thyroid illness and simply of getting six infants in 9 years. It was quite a bit for my physique to course of. And the mindset piece, I’ve talked about this slightly bit earlier than on this podcast, however issues didn’t actually begin shifting bodily till I addressed that mindset piece. And after I might take a look at the mirror and discover love and acceptance for myself, it grew to become a lot simpler to function from a spot of nourishing my physique as a substitute of combating it and loving it as a substitute of depriving it. And that made all the distinction. I feel you’re proper, that like that magnificence has to return and that appreciation and that love and acceptance and pleasure has to return from inside. And as ladies, that additionally offers us the flexibility to be that for different folks as effectively. However it will possibly’t come from a spot of not having it for us to start with. And a few extra notes I had on my present notes I wanna ensure we contact on, I’ve learn and heard about ladies affected by one thing known as anorgasmia, which appears to be on the rise as effectively. Are you able to clarify why that’s occurring? And whether it is on the rise, why you suppose it may be on the rise proper now, after which how ladies can tackle that?

Dr. Bawa: There are numerous the explanation why ladies are having issues orgasming. For one, I don’t know that many people notice that solely 18% of ladies can orgasm from vaginal intercourse, from the penetration itself. So there are various things at play right here. One, we have to make our companions conscious that oral stimulation or exterior stimulation is extra necessary. We have to have higher vaginal well being, typically. Like I stated, we have to deliver higher blood move into the world to get up our nerves, to get up our blood vessels. I feel individuals who have anorgasmia or who’ve painful intercourse…these are two completely different points. Some individuals are having painful intercourse. Some individuals are not having painful intercourse, however they’re getting nowhere when they’re having intercourse. There are numerous parts to this. So I feel wellness as an entire is gonna contribute to it after which training that there’s a downside. It’s okay to have that downside. And it’s okay to talk about that downside. Whenever you tackle it together with your physician and also you inform your physician, “Pay attention, I’ve no sensation. I’m not getting there,” then I feel there are a couple of necessary parts to this.

You could communicate to a therapist. There are therapists who specialise in sexual remedy and sexual wellness, they usually may help you with this. In the case of the physique itself, there are docs like me who do FemiWave, who do hormone balancing, who will make it easier to with the O-Shot and make you extra orgasmic. So there are completely different instruments that it’s essential to assist your self with. Once more, it’s not only one factor, I want there was only one factor, however there are a number of issues you are able to do to assist your self. And so they all contribute. I feel all of them work collectively higher synergistically and any one among them by themselves. So I feel there’s quite a bit on the market. We simply must get that assist.

Katie: And I feel having the dialog, I do know like all sexual well being matter is slightly bit taboo and, like, I feel it raises eyebrows each time I discuss it on right here, however I feel the dialog can be crucial as a result of we all know that that’s tied into total well being. And to your level, I feel it is a matter that’s not talked about sufficient, particularly for girls. We definitely see all of the commercials for all of these points for males. And it looks as if when males have a battle with that, it turns into an important, imminent factor to repair. However ladies, I really feel like usually are extra hesitant to speak about it or really feel like one thing’s fallacious with them and really feel disgrace round it. And to your level, I didn’t notice it was that drastic of a statistic, however for a lot of ladies, simply penetrative intercourse usually isn’t sufficient, however that’s one thing that they really feel dangerous speaking about or they really feel like they’re not regular due to that. And so I feel opening the dialog and letting them notice that there are alternatives and issues that may assist a lot, however even simply beginning that dialog and taking that disgrace and that societal notion away from it’s such an necessary first step for girls. And I’m so glad we’re in a time when there are issues like this obtainable and we’re beginning to lastly have this dialog.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now I get in bother typically on my social media although. I’ve very dignified posts. I’m not exhibiting something that’s express. I imply, my posts should not pornographic, however even Instagram and Fb will typically take my posts off as a result of I discussed intercourse or one thing sexual. Now, I’m a medical physician, I’m not doing something inappropriate, however there’s disgrace even to that extent. Now let me let you know one thing completely unbelievable. I made a decision to take my youngsters on a trip and shut the workplace for every week and my assistant went on a trip along with her household. We consider in having a life at Bawa Medical, we’re allowed to go on trip. We closed down our workplace and we acquired an answering service to reply our calls in order that sufferers might at the very least make and alter appointments whereas we had been gone for simply 5 enterprise days.

Are you aware that I acquired a name as soon as I used to be already in one other city from my answering service they usually stated to me, “Sorry, Dr. Bawa, we all know we talked to you and we set this entire account up, however we can’t reply your calls as a result of some folks name for vaginal rejuvenation, and that’s an inappropriate matter.” I stated, “Are you severe? Vaginal rejuvenation is inappropriate?” We’re not calling a porn channel, we’re not calling, you understand, “Hustler” or “Playboy.” These are, you understand, folks calling the physician’s workplace. Why is that this taboo? And so they stated, “Properly, it’s embarrassing and it’s inappropriate.” I stated, “What about vaginal well being is inappropriate to you?” And these had been ladies telling me this. So, I used to be horrified, horrified that in at present’s day and age, within the yr 2021, my answering service decides to not take my calls as a result of I supply vaginal rejuvenation and that’s offensive to them. So there must be a mindset shift right here.

Katie: I agree. That’s sort of astounding that sufferers contact their precise physician a couple of medical downside…like, to me that may be the identical as like just like a pregnant girl making an attempt to name her OB and being advised, “Oh, I’m sorry, we will’t discuss that as a result of your vagina is concerned.” Like, that’s astounding to me.

Dr. Bawa: I simply…you understand, my head was spinning. I nonetheless keep in mind I used to be getting out of a cab in Philadelphia and I stated, “What a part of that is inappropriate? What a part of that is dangerous? Please clarify to me.” I actually requested the girl, I stated, “Ma’am with all due respect, do you’ve gotten a vagina? Do you ever discover that you simply need assistance from a physician to your vagina? I don’t count on you to reply that query,” I stated to her, “however how will you deny ladies the chance to make appointments for his or her vaginal well being?” So, I’ll provide you with a small instance of the answering service, however it signifies a much bigger concern. It’s not okay to speak about it most often. Why? We’re all ladies and men, I imply, sexual well being is necessary. We’re all in a state of affairs the place now we have the best to have good, intimate wellness and to not be advised that it’s dangerous or soiled or upsetting to the typical one that’s listening to us. Why is it upsetting to folks? What are we speaking about that’s inappropriate?

If it’s okay to speak about cardiac well being, why is it inappropriate to speak about sexual well being? Why is intercourse a grimy phrase? If it wasn’t for intercourse, you and I might not be alive at present. It’s not essentially a foul factor. And why ought to we be denied high quality of life? An excellent intercourse life results in a greater relationship, results in a greater high quality of life. When you don’t dribble urine if you train, you aren’t gonna have higher cardiac well being. I imply, it’s a much bigger concern than simply about your vagina and your bladder.

That’s why I say that what we do at Bawa Medical is so transformational as a result of we remodel lives. And that’s why I feel that this must cease being such a taboo matter, that Instagram must cease deleting my posts after I discuss it, that YouTube must cease sending me, you understand, little emails warning me concerning the content material I’m placing out. Why am I being known as an issue baby as a result of I’m specializing in an issue that we’re all dealing with? So, a lot of this, there must be a shift in how we take into consideration this. It must be okay to speak. And that’s why I’m so joyful you’re speaking about it.

Katie: Properly, and also you’re so proper. I feel that the dialog is so necessary. And for girls simply to listen to that simply because these issues are widespread, it doesn’t imply they need to be regular, or definitely that they need to expertise them. I’ve had six infants, 5 of them got here out vaginally and I don’t dribble urine after I train or leap on a trampoline or sneeze. That doesn’t need to be a factor. I feel many ladies assume that’s only a factor that occurs when you’ve gotten youngsters, however it doesn’t need to be. I feel beginning the dialog is step one towards it.

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And likewise a theme from this entire interview has been the mindset piece. And I feel that’s additionally an space the place there’s a lot alternative for all of us, however particularly ladies relating to these subjects actually to have the ability to develop and enhance as a result of there’s a lot tied up in that.

And I’ve a be aware in my present notes that if you happen to had been going to provide a TED Discuss, it will be on why you shouldn’t let adversity beat you down and that mindset piece. And I like that regardless of all of your experience within the medical world, that that’s the factor that brings…is an important to you. So I’d love to listen to slightly bit extra about that as a result of I feel you’re proper, mindset permeates by all the pieces and is so, so necessary. So, I might simply love to listen to slightly little bit of your perspective on that, having been by adversity and never letting it beat you down.

Dr. Bawa: , all the pieces about who I’m at present has been as a result of I made a decision to beat adversity. I used to be a sufferer of…and I don’t discuss this normally, and I’m going to attempt to not choke up about it as I discuss it, however abuse, abuses and…and right here I am going once more. Abuse is one thing that’s a giant deal. Abuse is one thing that goes throughout all instructional, monetary limitations. I used to be a sufferer of lots of emotional, home abuse and finally bodily abuse as effectively. And also you wouldn’t suppose that a physician in my state of affairs would take care of that, however I did. I overcame that. I’m not in that state of affairs anymore, it lasted a few years. I received’t go into a lot element about it, however the level is it was a couple of mindset. One thing needed to change and I made a change. Most cancers, one thing needed to change, it couldn’t simply be about illness. It couldn’t simply be about vomiting. It couldn’t simply be about shedding hair. I needed to make it one thing that helped me grow to be a much bigger particular person, a greater particular person. And I had to make use of my most cancers and my adversity to be a greater physician.

So, I’ve determined that it doesn’t matter what occurs to me in life, I’m going to make use of something destructive that occurs to me to assist me develop in no matter form or kind that may be, to point out my sons, who’re my world, that life shouldn’t be concerning the negativity that occurs to us, it’s about what we select to do to rework it. And that’s why I feel that if I used to be to ever give a TED Discuss, I hope to sometime, you by no means know, it will be about beating adversity. Like, I discussed about Miss Florida, it was by no means a couple of pageant. It was a a lot greater factor than only a pageant. It was about redefining mindset of a most cancers affected person. It was about redefining the concept of magnificence in most cancers as a result of most cancers shouldn’t be alleged to be stunning, proper? That’s not how we’re raised to consider it. Most cancers is one thing that makes you lower than your self. You lose your hair, you lose your pores and skin, you acquire weight, you drop some weight, however both manner, you’re not at your finest. So we assume that meaning we’re not stunning. No, you might be simply as stunning if no more so as a result of now you’ve gotten overcome yet one more factor. So, adversity is one thing that helps me reside a greater life. It doesn’t make sense, it’s virtually oxymoronic when you consider adversity and higher life, however that’s how I select to see it. Adversity for me is a chance for additional development.

Katie: I absolutely agree having been by trauma in my previous as effectively, I can now…I feel it takes some work and emotional shifts to get there, however I can now look again and have gratitude for all the teachings that got here from that and the issues that it allowed me to do and such as you, to assist different folks by that have and thru that story. Similar factor with my thyroid. I by no means would have cared a lot for well being had I not been given a motive. And I’m so grateful that that shift occurred. I feel you’re completely proper that that mindset piece is so necessary and that it isn’t what occurs to us, it’s how we select to interpret that, reply to that, and develop from that or not as a result of we definitely all the time have that alternative as effectively. For me personally, one of many books that was useful in that was known as “The Untethered Soul,” and it helped me to course of a few of these feelings. And that’s one other query I like to ask at this level in interviews is that if there’s a e-book or a variety of books which have had a profound impression in your life or your journey, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why?

Dr. Bawa: I feel a e-book that all the time comes up in my thoughts after I’m requested a query about books or a e-book that has modified me is a e-book known as “Outliers.” Outlier is a e-book written by Malcolm Gladwell about achievement and failure and what defines a winner, how the winners are normally outliers on the top of that spectrum a method or one other, and what number of occasions it’s a must to do one thing to succeed, to grow to be good at it. And I feel that it’s a lot about perseverance and about rising above the typical, above the norm that I feel is a e-book that basically helps me proceed my journey in direction of self-improvement, in direction of reaching excessive requirements. I’m a excessive achiever. It doesn’t matter what I do in life, I don’t settle for mediocrity. Mediocrity to me is a four-letter phrase. “It doesn’t matter what you do,” my father as soon as stated to me, after I was about 5 years outdated, “if you wish to be a chef, have Michelin stars after your title. If you wish to be a physician, be the perfect you could be.” So it’s not about what you do, it’s about excelling at it. , if you wish to be anyone who does desserts for a dwelling, be Sylvia Weinstock. There’s greatness to be achieved in all the pieces. In order that’s, you understand, one thing that I feel “Outliers” helped me define in my very own life.

Katie: That’s stunning. I like that. And I’ll, after all, put hyperlinks to your observe and to some submit referring to a few of the subjects we’ve talked about at present for any of you guys listening, particularly in case you are within the Florida space and wish to discover Dr. Bawa and be taught. These hyperlinks will probably be there. However any parting recommendation for our listeners at present, whether or not or not it’s on mindset or well being or any of the subjects we’ve mentioned?

Dr. Bawa: I feel if I might really give two items of recommendation if you happen to’ll let me, I feel I’d prefer to say two issues. Firstly, ladies, please go get examined, do month-to-month exams. They’re not simply one thing in a textbook, they save lives. They saved mine. So be higher advocates for yourselves, that is necessary. If there’s one thing fallacious, go discover assist. And in case your physician blows you off, blow the physician off, discover one other physician who will take heed to you. Secondly, I might say, I consider in high quality of life, be it in your sexual well being, be it in what you see if you look within the mirror. When you’re not joyful together with your hair, do one thing to make your hair higher. There’s assist on the market. When you’re not having the perfect intercourse of your life, do one thing to make your self have the perfect intercourse of your life. Whether or not it’s balancing your hormones, whether or not it’s doing one thing like FemiWave, whether or not it’s, you understand, doing one thing nutritionally. No matter it’s that you simply’re not proud of, don’t be complacent. So lots of my sufferers say, “Properly, I’m not that dangerous but.” That idea is senseless to me. Why would you wait until that time? Why would you wait until your life within the bed room is a whole catastrophe earlier than you make it higher?

Why not go do one thing like FemiWave, as an example, the place it’s acquired no downtime, it’s not painful? Do one thing for your self. When you’re having points together with your hormones and also you’re having sizzling flashes, communicate to your physician about optimizing your hormones. Try this. So, I feel, reside your finest life, no matter meaning to you. In no matter form or kind you may elevate your existence, do it.

Katie: I like that. And I feel that sums up lots of what we talked about at present and is an ideal place to wrap up. However I’m very grateful to your time at present. I’m very grateful that you’ve recovered, and also you’re thriving, and that you simply’re serving to many different folks do the identical. Thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks a lot for having me. This was fantastic.

Katie: And thanks as all the time to you, guys, for listening, for sharing your most dear belongings, your time and power, and a focus with us at present. We’re each so grateful that you simply did, and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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